Pillar of Ferocity vs Terestian's Stranglestaff

So... i respecced feral from resto to do some pvp and have fun at the same time, the last couple of months i have been raiding MH/Bt and i'm wondering now, i got both
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28658
and
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30883

My question is : wich one is the best for overall in both cat and bear form as feral pvp xD

Pillar gives you more sustained damage. I would stick with the pillar. Especially if you are going to pvp with it. That extra armor is noice

O_o you got pillar and even think of going terestian? Lots of AP&stam&armor to cover agi. Anyway, agi doesn't exist in pvp weapon.

Sry for hijacking this thread

I have a problem. I just recently leveled my druidalt and really wanted to do some arena as feral. God knows how much bgs I grinded just to get some s1 stuff going, and I'm again at 45k honor and Arenapoints at 3xxx.

Here is my armorylink : http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kult+der+Verdammten&n=Yiska

Am very unsure about if I'm going to buy honor/arenaitems before s4 hits.

Even though it's Ming, I really think he's making a valid point here:

"Summer time there is no school and it is also a slow period for corporate America in general, free time won't be an issue and unfortunately, I don't see season 4 coming out until the TR2 ends. Blizzard is very serious about the e-sport potential of WOW and will likely want to generate maximum attraction for its high stake tournaments. It doesn't really make sense for them to end season 3 and TR2 at the same time, forcing players to put in a lot of games on both ends."

My question is, if I'm going to buy some items, which of the s3 items would be would be the best improvement to my gear. I often find myself trained in everysingle Arenamatch (nuff justifing for my pisspoor 3s rating? :/). Also it should be no problem to get to 1850 2s with my dear rogue friend. He will perfectly carry me even to 2k^^

Sry for my terribad english

So long
Yiska

Edit: Armory just shows my casterformstaff. I got the illhoofstaff for all other forms.

Great site for gear questions:
http://www.emmerald.net/Cat_High_DPS/Two_Hand.html
Awesome for PvE, not so much PvP, but it has it's uses.

As for your question about S3 vs S4, I'd say try to keep grinding honor if you can stick it out. If there's still no word when you're getting close to the 75k cap, start using it and grind it back. This way, once S4 comes out, you'll have the 75k to burn on the better stuff.

As for what to buy? A lot of the S4 pieces (even guardians/honor pieces) have rating requirements on them. (See http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5973993258&sid=1)

I'd say pick the ones that you don't think you'll reach the rating on first. Not sure if this really helps, you're boots don't look half bad, and those are the highest rating.

Also, don't forget you need two rings - you've already got the S3, but you're going to either want to buy the S2 one now or use some of the honor you have saved when S4 rolls around. Your call there.

If you can get enough of the vindicator's honor pieces beforehand, when S4 comes out you'll want to spend most of your honor on the S2 stuff since that will be honor. The full set will cost you around 60k honor, so you'll have a bit left over if you go into S4 with full 75k honor. If you can save arena points, you can purchase some of the S4 armor pieces and that'll save you from needing to buy S2, and therefore have more honor to spend on the guardian's stuff.

As for your biggest upgrade, I'd say probably your neck or trinket. The battlemaster trinkets are really nice if you can spare the huge 30k honor. Other than that, see if you can find a Badge of Tenacity on the AH or something. It's the second best for PvE tanking, and you need to trinkets. The use is +Agi so it's good for dodge if you get Focused by a melee or two, but you can also use it offensively for the +AP and such when you need that extra damage to drop someone.

The neck you have is nice for the stats, I used it on the way up too, but the PvP one's a little better IMO. Also, if you can get exalted with the Shattered Sun Offensive (I see you're almost there, just keep doing dailies and MGT), the Shattered Sun Pendant of Might (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34679) is a decent PvP neck and it's 3rd best for Cat DPS since you're scryer.

What about the s3 gloves? Since s1 only got the terribad -0,1 casttime on cyclone, is the 3 sec schoolblock worth it? I can only imagine it being useful when focusing healers.

On a lesser note, I don't think the ratingrequirements for honor pieces will be a problem at all. My future 2vs2 ally is pretty much the best rogue I ever played with/against, has 4t6/4s3 warglaives and made 2.4k with a discpriest(43years old female). Therefore the choices are even harder. Shatteredsunnecklace is o/c on it's way.


Also I really feel my lack in gear is THE problem for our 3vs3 rating. Every fuckin scrub got s3 full. Therefore every gear update before s4 launch is o/c very welcome. Getting stomped in lowratings for another 2k arena points is not exactly fun. I can count the times I'm not being focused on one hand (read: LESS THAN FUCKING 6) after playing around 130 games.

I think the S3 glove upgrade is well worth it. I love the bonus, even on non healers. It makes 1 CP maiming much more useful, and you don't have to worry so much about hitting your target after. Especially in teams with 2 dps, a lot of times your maim will get broken. Having the interrupt on it will still lock your target down a bit. Say your partner gets a lucky crit on a lock and gets him low and he starts using siphon life. Even if you've got one combo point, you can interrupt it and shred right after for some more spike too.

The s3 gloves were the first piece I bought and I don't regret it a bit. If you're desperate to upgrade gear, this is a good choice. Especially if you're going to hold a decent rating anyway, you're getting close to the 5k cap on arena points.

I hear you on the full S3 teams, I hit the same thing all the time and it's terrible =(.

As for getting focused - it depends on your setup. If they're seeing 2 tough to kill classes sitting in s3 gear, they're going to test focusing the kitty that they can't see the gear on. I personally play with a s1/2 warrior and disc priest, and our priest almost always gets focused first.

If you're not worried about rating then I'm not really sure how else to tell you what to decide. Look for the biggest health/resilience bonus if that's your problem right now. All I can really say =/.

Thanks a lot

Sorry to butt in, but afaik the glove bonus is still bugged and does not work in arena AT ALL. This is because first the maim is applied, and THEN the bonus tries to lock the school that your target is casting in. But since you maimed him already, he won't be casting anything, and you are locking no school at all. The bonus only works in PVE atm.

Someone please do correct me if I'm wrong tho!

I'd heard similar r.e. the glove bonus, so that the only time it'll work is when your target is immune to the incapacitate effect due to diminishing returns.

Anyone able to confirm based off reliable testing one way or the other? Might have to spend some time dueling a resto friend if not, see if can get a nature lockdown happening briefly or not if attacking again straight after the maim lands.

I've heard the same thing before and I was worried. Later I read somewhere it was fixed. I never bothered testing it as it seemed to work fine when I was doing arena and such.

Reading your post got me worried so I spent a few minutes multi-box dueling my own priest. Maiming a greater heal is causing a 3s cool down on all of the holy abilities. This means the gloves are working as intended. =)